The chain would end up as black garden on cl1 and bth on cl2, and since the chain resolves in reverse meaning the atk halving from garden hasnt taken place yet, bottomless will get rid of the threat. Does torrential tribute still resolve with effect if it was. Anytime a card says something like when this is summoned, you can. Legacy of the duelist on the playstation 4, a gamefaqs message board topic titled help finding a few cards. Can a gorz the emissary of darkness token attack answers. All of those involve things your opponent can t do about negating super polymerization or negating the fusion summon. Things like bottomless and torrential just have to be in the same chain as the summon, unlike others such as warning that require themselves to be activated directly in response to the summon. Timing question bottomless trap hole vs lightning chidori. The dragon protection effect is a trigger effect as denoted by the colon.
What can he block and what cant he block in regards to his 500 atkdef ability. I know that morbius eff will still work and if i have other trap or spell on the field i have to destroy it,but i am sure that if torrential is one of those traps i can activate. If i chain mask change in response to my opponents activation of treacherous bottomless torrential, will the monster get destroyed before the extra deck hero. Top 10 yugioh rules you should know but probably dont. Can you torrential tribute gorz emisary of darkness. Cards like bottomless trap hole and torrential tribute dont negate. The organization the great escape looking into chain beat. The only thing you can do is use solemn warning to negate the summon and prevent him from ever hitting the field. When the wicked avatar is tribute summoned, its effect begins a chain. Gandora xs effect destroys monsters on the field and inflicts damage.
You cant bottomless jinzo, jinzos effect never activates and you cant chain to it. Theres a lot of confusion out there that can be cleared up by a better understanding of chaining, so im going to spend the next few moments on the subject. Ok, i would like to ask you very simplein my opinion question. Soul exchange is unneeded when exploder dragon can take care of the very monsters youd be trying to soul exchange and you get to keep your battle. Black rose dragons trigger will be chain link 1, torrential tribute will be chain link 2, so torrential tribute will resolve first, then black rose dragons effect. Further, you can chain torrential tribute to bottomless trap hole, for the same reason activating bottomless trap hole isnt resolving anything, so the last thing to resolve is the summon. Remember there is only a limited amount of cards that can be activated during the damage step of the battle phase, and torrential. Therefore, you can activate torrential tribute or bottomless trap hole when it summons itself, as you have not missed the timing. Chain link 1 of that chain must, invariably, be an effect that would negate the summon of the monster whose summon is being attempted. Feb 22, 2008 oh and one more thing you should know. Unlike earlier, this whole chain is in response to the summon, not just the first card on the chain, so multiple effects that can be used in response to the summon may be activated. Your opponent would like to activate torrential tribute in response to your link summon. Torrential tribute can be activated after a monster is summoned through another cards effect, such as monster reborn, scapegoat, cyber jar if flip summoned, or call of the haunted. Jun 19, 2015 you can chain torrential tribute to the effect of black rose dragon, but the result is the same.
I summoned thunder king raioh, he torrential tributes, to which i respond with solemn judgment. I could have summarized this by just saying that trigger effects activate before other effects, but i m sure knowing that this flowchart exists and being able to come back to. Im talking about responding to the fusion summon after it succeeds, with something like torrential tribute or bottomless trap hole. The turn player has priority, so can activate chaos sorcerers effect as chain link 1. Reverse of arcadia on the ds, a gamefaqs message board topic titled drill warrior vs bottomless torrential etc.
I think that i can do that because the chain link will go backwards 2 before 1. Lets say my opponent summons legendary six samurai shi en. Nov 16, 2018 you can activate this effect multiple times in the same chain to negate the activation and effect of several spell cards that are activated in the same chain. I activate geartown and replace it with necrovalley to use geartowns eff of special summoning an ancient. Activating card of safe returns effect isnt resolving anything. The chain ygodude 3192007 comments ive always meant to write an article about chaining, but i never seemed to get around to it. The phrase during either players turn means the effect is a quick effect. I would cut card destruction, dragons mirror x2, genesis dragon and the trap lineup so you can work in 2 bottomless trap hole, 2 solemn warning, 1 burst breath and another book of moon. You can chain bottomless trap hole or torrential tribute to this effect.
Remember there is only a limited amount of cards that can be activated during the damage step of the battle phase, and torrential tribute is not one of them. There can be only one chain during the summon negation window of summon procedure. Note that this entire chain is still in response to the summon, so torrential tributebottomless trap hole etc. Does bottomless trap hole work on obelisk the effect monster. You can use a variety of other cards to perform this trick too. For example, you can tribute your monster to activate the second effect of enemy controller. Jul 16, 2014 a huge, mysterious crater spotted in remote siberia has scientists scrambling for answers. Torrential tribute will destroy the monster, so you can chain it to the activation of an ignition effect and bypass skill drain that way. How to play arroung bottomless trap hole and torrential tribute if you have call of the haunted, gottoms emergency call or return from a different dimension.
Tcg strategy articles how to get around skill drain. Neither player can target this card with monster effects. Bottomless and torrential are bigger problems than shock master is now with the updated build. You can only chain to counter trap cards with other counter trap. Torrential tribute from labyrinth of nightmare for.
Did black rose dragons effect is negated when opponent. This means, even if they were to flip bottomless trap hole, you still have the option to. The prevention of super polymerization means that no card or effect can be chained to its activation. Yes it can be chain together but it was very wasteful. Fiendish chain will resolve first, so chaos sorcerers effect will be. It does not matter that the effect of the wicked avatar. Torrential will destroy all the monsters and the rest of the cards in the chain will fizzle out as there are no more monsters on the field to activate them. You play bottomless trap hole, then your opponent plays just desserts. I have bottomless trap hole and torrential tribute set. Once the monster is summoned successfully, a window opens in which you can react to the summon with cards like bottomless trap hole or torrential tribute. You want to prevent the damage so you play torrential tribute to destroy all the monsters.
Yes you can, chidori activates when it is successfully summoned, so you can chain your bottomless as long as its in the same chain. How should i chain a bottomless or timespace trap hole to destroy a. Also consider the infamous bottomless traphole, which banishes a monster. It is impossible for the same chain to respond to their summons. Chains resolve backwards, so any traps activated in response will. Therefore, when super polymerization resolves and the fusion monster is special summoned, torrential tribute or bottomless trap hole can be activated. Can i chain morbius eff with bottomless trap hole or torrential tribute. Bottomless trap hole db2en201 common unlimited edition. Triggers will always go on the chain first before any manually activated cards like torrential tribute. If you summon a monarch and your opponent uses torrential. Do i have to call priority to chain torrential, and then he gets to choose which effect to negate, or does heshe have to choose to negate right away and then i can chain torrential.
Bottomless trap hole can still be activated because it is still considered to be when the wicked avatar was successfully summoned. Asked in yugioh how much could you get or a mint condition rare jinzo. In fact ive never gotten around to writing an article. When chaos sourcerer is summoned can you fiendish chain it to. You can chain torrential tribute to the effect of black rose dragon, but the result is the same. It destroys and removes from play the monsters after it has already been successfully summoned as long as you are properly chaining cards with appropriate spell speeds, you can activate as many cards that respond to the summonattack in the chain responding to those actions. Sep 14, 2011 regarding chains, prioritys, timings, etc 1 my opponent puts dragon ravine faceup on the field i chain mst can he still use the effect from dragon ravine. Dec 19, 2009 torrential tribute and bottomless trap hole can only be used in response to a monsters summon.
Bottomless trap hole destroys and banishes gandora x chain link 1 resolves. Quick effects are spell speed 2 so they can chain to things, which means you can chain it to the activation of bottomless trap hole, torrential tribute, compulsory evacuation device, dimensional prison, and all that stuff. My friends say that when the fusion summon happens, super polymerization is. But only this one chain is in response to the summon. The effect that you cant activate traps is continuous and is applied the instant he hits the field. As long as the summon was the last thing to happen on the field, before the chain was started with scapegoat, cards like torrential tribute and bottomless trap hole can be legally chained, because their activation requirement has been met, and can be activated in the chain.
I know he can block mirror force and torrentialbottomless but is there other effects he can block. Attacking a monster does not summon it note that if the monster is face down, this is a flip and. You can chain the effect of horus the black flame dragon lv8 to the activation of a continuous spell card, field spell card, or equip spell card and negate it. Chains resolve backwards, so any traps activated in response will resolve before azures protection kicks in. Torrential tribute labyrinth of nightmare, yugioh online. When your opponent summons breaker the magical warrior and. Bottomless trap hole destroys monsters as well as removing them, meaning stardust dragon can chain to and negate it. The data is only saved locally on your computer and never transferred to us. Torrential tribute can be activated after a flip summon, but it does not negate the flip effect it is chained to the flip effect. Bottomless trap hole vs weird summon response chains yugi. Your opponent would like to activate a fast effect in response to your action that did not start a chain, or the resolution of a chain, during your turn. Does torrential tribute still resolve with effect if it. Jun 29, 2009 the token and the summoned monster are summoned at different times. Normally if you successfully summon a monster, you can place any ignition effect at chain link 1, before the opponent can respond with cards like bottomless trap hole.
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